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Post by anixx on Jun 28, 2022 7:05:10 GMT -8
It seems, he did not re-login after doing the steps, so the tasks never get started. I manually executed the task, but either ay, I logged out, logged back in, and now File Explorer looks "classic-ish". So progress! That's shame! You should figure out that after you did all the settings you should restart the session. Not that difficult at all! |
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Post by anixx on Jun 28, 2022 7:07:05 GMT -8
It seems, he did not re-login after doing the steps, so the tasks never get started. I manually executed the task, but either ay, I logged out, logged back in, and now File Explorer looks "classic-ish". So progress! I am just doing small batches at a time and testing so I know the taskbar and start menu are not going to be different yet. I'll move onto the next batch of instructions and see if that works. While they look "classic ish" my window borders look nothing at all like they should. You should do all at the same time, not in "bathches" because all the steps are interdependent! Whether you manually execute the classic task or not does not affect the next session! The window borders should be classic after restart of the session. |
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Post by sbal on Jun 28, 2022 8:00:43 GMT -8
Here is where I am at now. I did the following: - I Installed Explorer Patcher.
- I imported the Explorer Patcher reg file, copied and pasted exactly
- I installed OpenShell
- I imported the OpenShell reg file, copied and pasted exactly
- I downloaded the patched StartMenuDLL for OpenShell
- I overwrote the DLL in the Openshell folder with that file
[/a] - The window frames are "classic-ish" but have white borders around the gray borders, not the 3D effect of classic mode. Don't know why
- When I right click on the desktop or in File Explorer, I see no menu entries, just a long ribbon of gray with some arrows. I don't know why the menu items vanished
- The Taskbar is white with a black border.
Any ideas? I logged out and logged back in multiple times and this is what it always looks like[/ul] |
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Post by anixx on Jun 28, 2022 8:28:47 GMT -8
> The window frames are "classic-ish" but have white borders around the gray borders, not the 3D effect of classic mode. Don't know why
The window frames are classic in your screenshot, just have Win11 default color and sizes. You should apply "Windows 2000" color scheme in deskn.cpl or "Windows 95" or whatever you like (point 10 in the tutorial, which you obviously skipped).
> When I right click on the desktop or in File Explorer, I see no menu entries, just a long ribbon of gray with some arrows. I don't know why the menu items vanished
It seems, you skipped point 7 (importing the reg file for EP settings).
> The Taskbar is white with a black border.
Looks like you skipped point 9 of the tutorial. The taskbar is running in Classic theme but you need a patched dll. Or you have skipped point 8 (importing OpenShell settings).
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Post by anixx on Jun 28, 2022 11:49:13 GMT -8
You should do all the points, not just "I did this, this and this, should I do the rest?"
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Post by sbal on Jun 28, 2022 17:43:07 GMT -8
The window frames are classic in your screenshot, just have Win11 default color and sizes. You should apply "Windows 2000" color scheme in deskn.cpl or "Windows 95" or whatever you like (point 10 in the tutorial, which you obviously skipped). I did not get to that step yet. I didn't skip it. It seems, you skipped point 7 (importing the reg file for EP settings). I did not skip that step. I stated so in my post: "I imported the Explorer Patcher reg file, copied and pasted exactly" Looks like you skipped point 9 of the tutorial. The taskbar is running in Classic theme but you need a patched dll. Or you have skipped point 8 (importing OpenShell settings). I did not skip that step. I stated so in my post. "I installed OpenShell, I imported the OpenShell reg file, copied and pasted exactly, , I downloaded the patched StartMenuDLL for OpenShell, I overwrote the DLL in the Openshell folder with that file" |
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Post by anixx on Jun 28, 2022 18:03:29 GMT -8
From your screenshot it looks like the EP settings are not applied or EP is not running: the context menu is empty, the ribbon bar is there instead of Win7 command bar and the classic theme mitigations are off.
Can you open the EP settings dialog by right-clicking the taskbar and selecting "settings"?
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Post by anixx on Jun 28, 2022 18:07:42 GMT -8
Are you running a 32-bit system? EP does not support 32-bit architecture.
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Post by OrthodoxWin32 on Jun 29, 2022 2:46:28 GMT -8
I never tested it but if the registry settings are the same, all should work well. In fact, it is not possible to modify the user initialization, because it is a common register key. So I tried to disable the planned task of classic theme on a single user (not on others), but as the user initialization arrives on a disabled task, the explorer.exe process is no longer loaded (I get A black screen in the user session). I may have found solutions to add the multi-user support. I will test the potential solutions soon. |
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Post by OrthodoxWin32 on Jun 29, 2022 6:02:31 GMT -8
I tried to switch to the LOCAL_MACHINE userinit key to CURRENT_USER, but for some reason, the classic theme is no longer activated at the opening of the session (however, the userinit works, because the desktop is active).
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Post by sbal on Jun 29, 2022 10:24:28 GMT -8
From your screenshot it looks like the EP settings are not applied or EP is not running: the context menu is empty, the ribbon bar is there instead of Win7 command bar and the classic theme mitigations are off. Can you open the EP settings dialog by right-clicking the taskbar and selecting "settings"? I cannot, right clicking on the task bar brings up the grey strip, with no menu settings I can run EP from the start menu, I get the normal properties window I re-ran the reg file just n case, made no difference It is a 64 bit virtual machine I did find one issue, I went to manually check in the registry to see if the ExplorerPatcher keys were there, and several of the CSLID ones were missing. In your tutorial you have an erroneous "-" in front of the HKEY on 4 of the lines, which results in the keys not being created. I removed the "-", reran the reg file, and confirmed the keys are now present. However the context mnus still do not work. I logged in and out and rebooted the system, no change. Edit: Going into EP and turnign off "Immersive Menus" restores the context menus. so, progress |
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Post by anixx on Jun 29, 2022 11:45:51 GMT -8
In your tutorial you have an erroneous "-" in front of the HKEY on 4 of the lines, which results in the keys not being created. I removed the "-", reran the reg file, and confirmed the keys are now present. They are not erroneous, it is intended. These keys should be removed. |
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Post by anixx on Jun 29, 2022 11:51:39 GMT -8
Edit: Going into EP and turnign off "Immersive Menus" restores the context menus. so, progress Okay. You can try to set the necessary settings manually. Set the "Classic theme mitigations" on in "Advanced", set "Enable SysListView32" also there, in File Explorer settings select "Register as shell extension", "Control interface:Windows 7 command bar". |
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Post by sbal on Jun 29, 2022 12:27:03 GMT -8
OK, getting a lot closer now. After fixing the Reg file, and messing with EP settings, I am here  The taskbar seems to be the last holdout. What should I be looking at to get that fixed? Also is there any way to increase to row height in file explorer file lists? Also the "Ok" and "Cancel" buttons on pop up buttons seems to be small Edit: I found an app called RetroBar, and that brings back the classic taskbar. So I'm nearly there. How do you get the Win 2000 Icons? |
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Post by anixx on Jun 29, 2022 12:31:57 GMT -8
The reg file was correct. You should not "fix" it.
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Post by sbal on Jun 29, 2022 12:40:57 GMT -8
The reg file was correct. You should not "fix" it. I meant I "re-fixed it" by adding the - back in like you said |
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Post by anixx on Jun 29, 2022 12:41:20 GMT -8
The taskbar seems to be the last holdout. What should I be looking at to get that fixed? Also is there any way to increase to row height in file explorer file lists? Also the "Ok" and "Cancel" buttons on pop up buttons seems to be small You should go to the OpenShell settings. Looks like you did not import the reg file. Go to the Open Shell Classic Start Menu settings, to the taskbar tab, check taskbar adjustment checkbox, then select opaque, color black. |
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Post by anixx on Jun 29, 2022 12:44:46 GMT -8
The small size of OK and Cancel buttons in message boxes it a Windows issue, promised to be fixed in later builds.
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Post by sbal on Jun 30, 2022 10:53:50 GMT -8
So I restarted the VM with network acces, which activate Windows Defender, which was nuking the Classic Theme. I managed to get it added as an exclusion, however now when I rght click on the taskbar, I get the thin gray ribbon with no entries in the cntext menu. right clicking n the desktop works fine. any ideas if something else is getting blocked?
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Post by anixx on Jun 30, 2022 14:12:34 GMT -8
Show a screenshot, I will tell if your taskbar is classic-themed and whether EP is running.
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